In this Q&A, We welcome guest speaker Nelson Campbell and answer questions about PlantPure.
Learn more about PlantPure Nation and Nelson Campbell https://www.plantpurenation.com/.
Questions Answered
- (00:12) – Can you tell us about PlantPure
- (10:18) – How can I get my doctor involved?
- (15:07) – Can you tell us more about the food and recipes?
- (24:06) – Will insurance pay for this?
- (27:59) – Are the meals gluten free?
- (30:00) – What is the structure of the PlantPure support groups/pods?
- (31:10) – Can I share my recipe in your platform?
Complete Transcript
Dr. Laurie Marbas
(00:04)
[inaudible 00:00:04] we're super excited to welcome our special guest, Nelson Campbell from PlantPure. How are you?
Nelson Campbell
(00:09)
Very good. It's great to be here.
Dr. Laurie Marbas
(00:12)
Well, we're super excited to have you here because we have launched our program together, but we'd love to learn more about PlantPure and your work and just give us an overview of what that's about and we'll go from there.
Nelson Campbell
(00:25)
Okay. Well, we've been doing a lot so I won't go into too much detail because I could probably talk an hour without stopping, I think, but I'll just hit a few high points. So this journey started some years ago. I've been passionate about the plant based message for many years now, and I can blame my father for that. My father is Dr. Colin Campbell. So I had a front row seat to his research and started going plant based in my teens and early 20s. And so I've been plant based ever since.
Nelson Campbell
(01:01)
Some years ago, I had an idea for how we could develop and implement a strategy, kind of a holistic strategy to contribute to the growing grassroots movement to share the health and environmental benefits, ethical benefits of a plant-based diet. And I've been working on that vision ever since. And it has a number of different elements to it.
Nelson Campbell
(01:28)
First, fairly early in the process, I made a film called PlantPure Nation, which some of you may know about. And if you haven't seen it, you can see it on Amazon Prime and YouTube and iTunes. And then after that film came out, launched two organizations. One is a nonprofit. That nonprofit supports a network of advocacy groups around the world. We call these groups pods, because we're planting seeds of change in local communities. And there are about 250,000 or so people who are currently involved in that network.
Nelson Campbell
(02:04)
And I should also point out, by the way, that we're a fiscal sponsor for Dr. Michael Clapper's Moving Medicine Forward initiative, which we're really proud to have a role in that. That's a fantastic program if you haven't seen that. And then in addition to the nonprofit, we launched a company called PlantPure. And PlantPure is focused on food. So we have frozen entrees in supermarkets. We also have a new line. It's a meal starter line that we're very excited about. You add a wet ingredient and some fresher frozen produce and you can quickly prepare a meal and it's very affordable.
Nelson Campbell
(02:46)
We also have developed a new web-based social platform that we actually built for our pod network to help our pods engage in strategies in their local communities. And we've only done a soft launch of this, but we'll be launching it more aggressively later in the year. And then another thing we're doing is we are actually producing now a new documentary film, which is going to be called Healing America.
Nelson Campbell
(03:20)
And what I'm leaving last is the best for this audience, we are also launching, with Plant Based TeleHealth, a program called PlantPure RX. And this was part of our overall strategy. We have long felt that healthcare providers have to be at the forefront of this revolution. It's just not going to happen if our healthcare system doesn't embrace this and if physicians aren't at the forefront. So we've been actually working for several years to get to a place where we could launch this PlantPure RX program.
Nelson Campbell
(04:04)
Essentially what it is, it's a 10 day food and educational immersion program, where you can go on a plant based diet, you can live plant based for 10 days and learn about the benefits of a plant-based diet. And then do this under the supervision of a physician with a pre and post counseling session and biometric testing, a lipid panel, glucose and A1C. And it's just a fantastic way to introduce people to a plant-based diet. This is actually an approach without the physician oversight that we demonstrated in our film, PlantPure nation. We showed how powerful an immersion process like this could be. But we've taken it to the next level by making this something that a physician can prescribe to their patient as easily as a drug could be prescribed. So we're very excited about that.
Nelson Campbell
(05:08)
And just to kind of finish up here, everything I've talked about, and I probably have to talk a little longer to explain how all this is true, but everything that we're doing with respect to the media, the food, the PlantPure RX program, all of that, the social platform, we're going to be wrapping it together in a way that will enable us to launch a campaign later this year, which we're calling our Healing America campaign. And that really represents this grassroots vision that I had a few years ago for how we could contribute to this grassroots movement. So anyways, I'll stop there. That's just a short introduction to everything we're doing.
Dr. Laurie Marbas
(05:55)
Well, that's a lot that you're doing. And I just want to applaud all your efforts and all the work that you're doing to bring this to everyone, not just those who are already familiar with the plant based movement and eating this way. So thank you, Nelson, for everything you're doing. We definitely appreciate it and we're honored to partner with you in your program. And we've already started. We've worked with several patients already and it's been really fun.
Dr. Laurie Marbas
(06:20)
We're just now getting them started so we don't have the secondary reports and stuff and everything going, but they're super excited about the opportunity kind of as a reset, or sometimes it's just getting started. So it's very exciting and I certainly think our patients are enjoying it. And could you tell little bit about, what were the big changes that you saw in your jumpstart when people started this type of program?
Nelson Campbell
(06:44)
Yes. And this really goes to the heart of why I think an immersion process like this is so effective at helping people make the transition. There are really two ways you can do it. One is you can come of move in this direction in an incremental way. So maybe you have a plant based meal once a week and then twice a week and a few times a week. And we've just found that that's not very effective because people might dabble in it, but then they go right back to their old ways.
Nelson Campbell
(07:15)
An immersion process like this enables people to fully experience the health benefits of a plant-based diet and to learn. We're combining education, information with experience, and that's really powerful. And it's especially powerful when people see that changes in their numbers. And so we actually had the University of Cincinnati, they went through data that we had generated from our early jumpstarts and assessed it and published that. And I would say that most of the jumpstarts that we've done ever since, and that others have done, have fallen in a similar range.
Nelson Campbell
(07:56)
We generally see cholesterol reductions of about 15 to 20% through the 10-day period if people comply, and that's total cholesterol. And we see a similar reduction in LDL. We've had people who were diabetic, who had type II diabetes and were on insulin, their bodies heal so fast that you really have to monitor them because as they're healing, you have to adjust the insulin. There can be some serious side effects if you don't. So the healing process is dramatic and it's rapid. And I know that all of you can attest to this because you've done this many, many times with your own patients.
Dr. Laurie Marbas
(08:43)
Yeah, absolutely. And it's very, very quick. One of my favorites is stopping, not necessarily the program, but going on a plant based diet, was stopping 60 units of insulin within 72 hours. It was like, oh, my goodness. It was really confounding to see that. So we also have a few questions for you. One is asking, well, yes, Kim Campbell has a cooking show. Could you give us information on how people can tune in?
Nelson Campbell
(09:09)
Yes. And that's actually a really important part of the whole strategy actually, is the culinary part because it really is all about the food. The education's important, but the food better tastes good. And Kim has been cooking this way and experimenting with her different recipes now for gosh, 30 years or so. And she almost went to culinary school when she got out of college. Her dad wasn't crazy about that, but I think she wishes maybe she had done that. But she's learned a lot O over the years.
Nelson Campbell
(09:46)
She's published two cookbooks and she's a nationally regarded cookbook author. And she also has a show called PlantPure Kitchen Live. It's every Thursday. And if you sign up for it, you subscribe at plantpurenation.com, you'll get a recipe and a grocery list the week before, and then you can prep all your food. And then during the show, you can cook along with her. And so that's 6:30, every Thursday. So we're actually going to do that today at 6:30 Eastern time.
Dr. Laurie Marbas
(10:18)
Fantastic. So you guys have got to definitely check in, not only is she a phenomenal chef, but Kim is just a delightful human being. So you really definitely would benefit from tuning in. Then there's some other questions. How do we get doctors out there interested in this? What is your approach to reaching? Of course, we're trying to share with all the docs that we know, but do you have other strategies to maybe patients can get their doctors involved or share information?
Nelson Campbell
(10:47)
Yeah. First I want to take my hat off to you all and what you do. And again, moving medicine forward is a great way to expose this message to a lot to medical school students and physicians. So you're really out there doing a lot of this work. We're really coming at this from two different ways. One is this PlantPure RX program, we want to take it far and wide to as many physicians as we can, because I think one really key part of getting physicians to do this is to actually make it easy for them because they're all so busy. You know this better than me. All so busy and it needs to be as easy as prescribing a pharmaceutical. And so that's really what we've been working toward.
Nelson Campbell
(11:38)
The other thing that we're going to do, and we're just now kind of laying the groundwork. Because as I said, we did a soft launch of this social web platform. It's currently at opentribe.com. We are changing the name. We kind of grabbed that because it was available, but we've been talking to a lot of people and trying to come up with the perfect name. I'll just say it's probably going to have the word healing in it. But that's at open tribe.com and on that platform.
Nelson Campbell
(12:12)
And on that platform, we have projects and these are projects that each have a strategy and then resources to support the strategy. So pods and other local groups can use these as a roadmap for taking action in their local communities. One of the projects is focused on healthcare and we're going to encourage people in communities everywhere to carry information to their physicians. Patients can do a lot to help raise awareness amongst physicians. And then the third thing is this film I mentioned, it's another documentary film. It's going to, I think, stir up a lot of interest amongst physicians as well, because physicians are a really important part of the film.
Dr. Laurie Marbas
(13:02)
Excellent. And then there was a question also, we have a few actually, I'm trying to keep track of multiple screens I got going up here. So basically, Carol's asking, can you state your line of prepared food again and can one purchase it or become involved? Just on our side of it, if you want to join the PlantPure prescription provided by Plant Based TeleHealth, that's on our website. You'll see the word jumpstart on our menu and you can click on there and that gives you all the information. But let's say, Nelson, that people wanted to just buy your food, how can they go about doing that?
Nelson Campbell
(13:36)
Yeah. So I just reiterate what you said as the first step is, I would go to Plant Based TeleHealth and check out the whole program.
Dr. Laurie Marbas
(13:44)
Perfect.
Nelson Campbell
(13:45)
And by the way, even if you're already plant-based, we all know friends and family and coworkers who could benefit. So feel free to share the program with them as well. But if you're just interested in the food, that's at plantpurenation.com. And then under the shop tab, you can click on meal starters and you can see all the products. They're very affordable. You can make a serving of food, which is about 12 to 14 ounces, depending on how many veggies you throw in. At an average cost, including add-ins, of less than $3 so it's an inexpensive way to eat.
Dr. Laurie Marbas
(14:27)
And it's really pretty yummy too. We got to try some of them for samples and they're quite delicious and [inaudible 00:14:34] the household is thumbs up. And I know Anthony tried it as well, so it's good. And it's very simple. They're not difficult. Kim's done all the hard work for you. And you just, like you said, you're adding these ingredients and you have meals that are very, very affordable and a very good tasting. So I really think someone who's really entering into this, it's just an easy way. Like you said, it's just dive right in, it's all taken care of for you. And you can do it under the guidance or physician or yourself, if you prefer.
Dr. Chris Miller,
(15:07)
Can you tell us, Nelson, a little bit about the food? Are these all Kim's recipes and are they all made to be salt oils, sugar free? What are you guys following?
Nelson Campbell
(15:19)
Yeah. So many of them are Kim's recipes. And again, the form of the product is they're packs of dried ingredients. And then you just typically add a wet ingredient and some fresh or frozen and produce. So it's really a made from scratch meal. It's fresh. It's not frozen unless you use frozen veggies. But it's really very delicious. And also even if you're not a cook and you're not a chef, you get in there and you put a little soy milk in and you cook it, you feel like you're cooking. So that's kind of neat. In our house, I do all the cleanup and Kim makes a big mess. But I don't know how to cook so this is a great way to.
Nelson Campbell
(16:09)
In terms of the nutritional attributes, they are low in sugar. A number of them have no added sugar. Those that do, it's like one or two grams. So it's a small amount. Also, we have done an analysis, which you can find on our website. If you look at the entire day's consumption, so you factor in a meal starter for lunch, a meal starter for dinner, and then a typical plant-based breakfast and maybe fruit and veggie snacks in between, some side veggies and salads, you come up with a daily sodium count of about 1500 milligrams. So I think that's quite reasonable.
Nelson Campbell
(16:55)
There are a couple of issues. I'll just explain it in case people see, and we have a frequently asked question section that they can also consult. So our goal is to get these products to people. By the way, they're 100% GMO free as well. And if you want to use organic produce, of course have that option. But our goal is to make these affordable, because we want people everywhere, especially during the difficult economic times, to be able to do this. We're not interested in catering to just the whole foods demographic. We want this to be available to everyone.
Nelson Campbell
(17:29)
And so that's really important and that's why we chose this format. By way, when we sell these in underserved communities, we're waiving 100% of our profit margin. So our goal is to make it possible for people to eat a serving of food for a buck to a buck 50. So it's all about accessibility. Because we're using this product format, there are production issues that you have to contend with. So for example, when you have a powder, like a coconut milk powder, and it goes through the equipment, they have to put a trace amount and it's a trace amount. So it's not used as an ingredient. It's actually part of the production process, but because it's there, you have to put it on the label, a trace amount of a plant starch called maltodextrin.
Nelson Campbell
(18:17)
But it's literally in a microscopic amount within the meal, but it shows up on the label. We're actually trying to dispense within those ingredients that contain it or require it. So we're continuing to work on that. But if you see that, just know it's an immaterial trace amount. And then we have something in a few of the process, natural flavors, all that is, is lemon juice, powder and vinegar powder. But when some people see that, they think natural flavors, they think it's some kind of chemical.
Nelson Campbell
(18:51)
And we fought with the co packer to try to say, can't we just say lemon juice, powder and vinegar powder. And apparently it's an FDA rule that those two ingredients have to be described that way. So it's kind of ridiculous. All the products are oil free, but the raisin vinaigrette dressing, again, this was a production issue, they had to utilize just a tiny little spritz of oil in the production process. So it's in a trace amount. It's not really an ingredient in the food, but we had to show that on the label as well. So it's a very wholesome line and it's very affordable.
Dr. Laurie Marbas
(19:36)
Absolutely. And we would not recommend it if we didn't think that it was. And we certainly know where you're coming from, understanding that this really is meant to be affordable and accessible. So there will be the zealots on every audience that will criticize anything and everything, but that's not who we're aiming for. If that's the case, we'd just give them some money and go, hey, go to your produce section of your grocery store. But this is really about accessibility and opening up the amazing power of a plant based diet to a much broader audience that really needs it. America is sick, folks. And Nelson, you're doing such a wonderful work with that. It's just exciting.
Nelson Campbell
(20:14)
Well, I'm excited to be able to launch this with you. Also, did you see the recent study that just came out that on a per capita basis, that produce consumption has actually been falling for the last five or six or seven years?
Dr. Laurie Marbas
(20:27)
No, I haven't.
Nelson Campbell
(20:29)
I didn't know this myself. Because we tend to get so excited about all the progress in our vegan community and it's in the media, but when you look at the country as a whole, the society as a whole, produce consumption is falling. We went shopping during the pandemic and you probably had the same experience, there were certain aisles that were sold out. The produce was never, it was just overflowing.
Dr. Laurie Marbas
(20:57)
Absolutely.
Nelson Campbell
(20:58)
So we still have a lot of work to do. We have a lot of work to do.
Dr. Laurie Marbas
(21:02)
You're absolutely right. And yes, I had that same experience, and some of the other docs may want to echo this as well. That when this first started, March last year when the pandemic started really being taken hold, we went shopping. There was a line of people and all of them were full of junk food, soda, toilet and toilet paper, just in case. But we were into the produce section, everything was available. I'm like, this is a one of the best diets for something like this yet we also have the greatest access because nobody's buying it. Does anyone else experience that? Chris?
Dr. Kim Scheuer
(21:39)
And we needed the most toilet paper?
Dr. Chris Miller,
(21:40)
Well, actually, my grocery store sold out of tofu. Isn't that strange? I couldn't find tofu. So I thought that was so interesting. I was kind of happy to see that, but yes, I agree completely, people are buying sort of the wrong foods. And here we are stressed out, a stressful time, we're home eating and we're eating the wrong foods. And it's leading to all sorts of problems that we're actually seeing now in our patients from all these months and being stressed out at home and overeating because we're stressed out. And so we're seeing more obesity, more inflammation and more chronic problems. So it's time to turn this around. I love it. I love the idea of sharing it with the world. And for everybody listening, if you could pass this on to a few people. And it's so easy to join, and the food is made for you and it is tasty. Yeah, join the fun.
Nelson Campbell
(22:32)
Yeah. And sign up at Plant Based TeleHealth or get a friend to sign up or a family member. And of course you all, all this physician group here, you've had more direct experience with this than me, but in our jump starts that we've done, we've seen just such dramatic healing. It's so powerful. And there is truly no medicine like this.
Dr. Chris Miller,
(22:55)
And there's power in a jump start too, where you do 10 focus day and then you get off and running. Like you said, you immerse yourself in it. You learn a whole new way. You actually start to feel change in just those 10 days.
Nelson Campbell
(23:07)
Yeah. And it's so inexpensive. People only pay for the medical consultations and some of that, some or all that could be reimbursed by insurance. And then on the PlantPure, it's just the food and the food already fits within the food budget of just about everyone. In fact, you may save money if you do this.
Dr. Laurie Marbas
(23:32)
Absolutely.
Nelson Campbell
(23:32)
So it's a small price to pay for your life and your health.
Dr. Laurie Marbas
(23:37)
Absolutely. And when you look at snap even, which is kind of like a food stamps, it's about a $7 a day for an adult, is what they provide. So this would definitely fit into that type of budget. I've actually done videos trying to show people that you can actually feed a family on $10 a day of four, without this, much less if you add in this, this is even better because you get a variety of flavors and it goes further. So yeah, absolutely 100%.
Dr. Laurie Marbas
(24:06)
Someone asked a question and you had mentioned insurance, will insurance pay for this? Not necessarily food, but there was something you were working on. I know you had mentioned something, I'm not sure where that is, as far as with the prescription will insurance, you think, someday be able to pay for this part of it? As food is medicine, so to speak.
Nelson Campbell
(24:24)
I sure hope so. But I think it's going to take physicians like you getting out there and using structured programs like this to demonstrate the efficacy and the impact because right now, to a lot of the people who make those decisions, it still feels a little nebulous.
Dr. Kim Scheuer
(24:41)
And people who join it through Plant Based TeleHealth, we can give out a super bills so that you can try and get your money back from insurance. So we don't know how much they'll pay, but they may pay some or all, as Nelson said, some are of it at least, hopefully.
Dr. Laurie Marbas
(24:56)
Absolutely. And if we can see it as a prescription, I don't know, it depends on the HSA, the FSA, they may actually even cover part of the food.
Dr. Kim Scheuer
(25:03)
Absolutely.
Dr. Laurie Marbas
(25:03)
It certainly would be something to consider. Yeah. Dr. K any word or questions? I know you've worked with Nelson Campbell and all the Campbells for some time with PlantPure. Any thoughts?
Dr. Michael Klaper
(25:18)
Well, certainly gratitude for Nelson's vision and his energy to actually make all this happen. I'm a really grateful, doc, for all these assistance that PlantPure Nation has sent our way. And to all the viewers, it's hard to imagine a better opportunity. If you've been on the edge thinking, I really want to get around to improving my diet or check out this plant-based thing, you've got licensed physicians here waiting for you. Come on board, we'll take you by the hand and walk you through these 10 days.
Dr. Michael Klaper
(25:54)
The jumpstart program just lays it out so clearly. The food day's great. And we'll coach you at the beginning. You do your 10 days and then we'll meet you at the end. We'll get a second set of blood tests to see how your lipids and your A1C has improved and fix up with whatever auxiliary help you might need. And off you go, go live your life and be healthy and stay out of the clutches of people like us. You won't need medical help very often, we hope. So this is a great opportunity. And you've got the A team waiting for you just to sign up. So I hope you take advantage of it. This is a once in a lifetime opportunity. Hopefully not, but it might be so don't let it go by. Take advantage of this great chance.
Nelson Campbell
(26:40)
Yeah. And something, I don't know if I had said before, when you sign up for this and you're going through the 10 days, we send you emails with links to interesting information. We have a health seminar, actually, Dr. Marbas narrates one of those modules, that was created by the person who produced Forks Over Knives. And we have little short videos and cooking instruction and all of that. So you're learning all of that stuff as you go through it. And you're living plant based for the 10 days. So it's a really wonderful experience.
Nelson Campbell
(27:18)
By the way, thank you, Dr. Klaper, for commending me on my energy because that's high praise. Because I remember a few years ago, you and I were on a ship out in the middle of the ocean and I heard about your schedule. At that time, you were going to Europe or you'd come back from Europe or something. And I told Kim, I said, “I have no idea how Dr. Klaper can travel that much.” I guess it's because you're plant based.
Dr. Michael Klaper
(27:46)
That's the secret.
Nelson Campbell
(27:50)
You're very [inaudible 00:27:51] yourself.
Dr. Michael Klaper
(27:50)
Plant based passion. Those are two important ingredients, no doubt.
Nelson Campbell
(27:58)
Yeah.
Dr. Laurie Marbas
(27:59)
We have a few other questions, Nelson, if you don't mind. Are the meals gluten free?
Nelson Campbell
(28:06)
There are a few that are, but no, they're not all gluten free.
Dr. Laurie Marbas
(28:09)
And are they available in Canada?
Nelson Campbell
(28:13)
We get that question a lot. We so badly want to ship our food up to Canada, but we can't just yet because our labels don't meet the Canadian labeling requirements. And so there's an expense involved in doing that. And then we'd have to do another production run specifically for that. So it's really a financial issue. Someday though we will. In the not too distant future, we'll be in Canada.
Dr. Laurie Marbas
(28:37)
Maybe if you have an American friend who can buy it and then they can mail it to you.
Nelson Campbell
(28:42)
Yeah. Or they can smuggle it across the border.
Dr. Laurie Marbas
(28:45)
I don't know if Americans are allowed yet across the border.
Nelson Campbell
(28:48)
Smuggle plant-based healing food across the border.
Dr. Laurie Marbas
(28:52)
Darn it, you Canadians, we're going to make you well yet. Oh my goodness, this is great. And Dr. Kim, Dr. Chris, do you have you guys have any other questions for Nelson? I know we're coming up on time.
Dr. Kim Scheuer
(29:05)
No, but I have done this before. I've eaten your food and I've watched all your videos and it's fantastic. So thank you for what you do. It's fantastic.
Nelson Campbell
(29:13)
Well, thank you for embracing this. You are the first physician clinic to offer this and so in a way, you're helping to pioneer it. And we are really, really grateful that you've done this. And hopefully, you'll kind of blaze the trail for other physicians to follow. One thing to mention by the way before we close out here, is if people are interested in joining a local support group or starting one, again, we call these pods, I encourage people to go to plantpurecommunities.org, because being around other people who are living this lifestyle is very helpful.
Dr. Laurie Marbas
(30:00)
And I definitely echo that. I had a patient this week who had mentioned, she had really started strong on the plant based diet then went through the holidays and kind of struggled in the new year. And she goes, “You know what I needed?” And she goes, “I need a community.” So she got six of her family and friends involved, not everyone is local, but most of them are, and they started a support group. And it's exactly what the pods are. What is the structure of the pod and what do they do typically is, or is it you individually kind of run?
Nelson Campbell
(30:23)
So typically what happens and it sounds really simple, but people love it. So typically pods get together maybe once a month or a couple of times a month around the potluck. And so people come in, they each bring their dish and they each have the recipe, at least in our pod. And we have a recipe board so you can go get the recipes of everything that you're eating, get new ideas. And then we oftentimes have some educational elements. We might show a video or have someone speak or something. But what we've heard over the past few years is people really want to take the next step and they want to start getting more active in their local communities. So that's why we built this way a platform which we're going to be rolling out, hopefully on the heels of the pandemic when people start coming back together again.
Dr. Laurie Marbas
(31:10)
Yeah. The pandemic's shaken up a lot of different things, but it's given us opportunities to, I think, reach more people in this sense, at least with your program and what we're doing. So absolutely. He says, can I share my recipe in your platform? I have a plant based blog on Instagram. So they can actually share amongst each other, their own resources too, in these pods and different things.
Nelson Campbell
(31:34)
They can. Yeah. And that's really helpful to people, trying different foods and swapping recipes and just being with other people who are living this way.
Dr. Laurie Marbas
(31:44)
Absolutely. And someone else says, when will your new documentary be available?
Nelson Campbell
(31:49)
We're hoping to get it done by the end of the year.
Dr. Laurie Marbas
(31:53)
Fantastic.
Nelson Campbell
(31:53)
We're moving fast. With everything in this world, it's a function of funding. So if we're fully funded and we can move without restriction, we could probably get it done by the end of the year.
Dr. Laurie Marbas
(32:10)
Wonderful. That's fantastic. And I will say, you guys definitely, I have Kim's cookbooks, I have the documentary, I've seen it, [inaudible 00:32:19] are great, absolutely wonderful. And again, we just really want to say, Nelson, thank you so much. One for, one, doing this amazing work, but also sharing it with us and creating a product that we can use as physicians to make our work easier. And that means so much to us that we're not out here alone trying to change the world, but there's others working by our side. And we just so appreciate you.
Nelson Campbell
(32:42)
All right. Well, thank you. And thanks so much for having me.
Dr. Laurie Marbas
(32:46)
Absolutely.
Dr. Chris Miller,
(32:46)
Thanks Nelson, we appreciate it.
Dr. Kim Scheuer
(32:48)
That's awesome. Thank you so much.
Dr. Laurie Marbas
(32:51)
And just again, to remind you, check out, it's plantpurenation.com, not .org.
Nelson Campbell
(32:57)
.com and then plantpurecommunities.org.
Dr. Laurie Marbas
(33:01)
Plantpurecommunities.org. And then if you want to sign up for the special jumpstart program that we have, you go to Plant Based TeleHealth. I'm just moving over to PlantPure, I guess. Oh my goodness.
Dr. Chris Miller,
(33:17)
Plant Based TeleHealth.
Dr. Laurie Marbas
(33:18)
There we go. Plantbasedtelehealth.com, click in the menu, jumpstart, and you're good to go. So thank you again, everyone for joining us and we will see you on the second, fourth Thursday of every month. And April 22nd, we're going to be starting a little bit earlier around 10:15 mountain time. And we have the amazing Dr. Michael Gregor, superstar amongst the superstar. So again, we're super excited to have him. And thank you again, Nelson and thanks everyone for watching. We really appreciate your time.
Dr. Chris Miller,
(33:46)
Thanks everyone for making it.
Dr. Kim Scheuer
(33:47)
Thank you guys.
Dr. Chris Miller,
(33:48)
Happy to see you.
Dr. Kim Scheuer
(33:50)
Be healthy.
*Recorded on 3.25.21